Tim Whitmarsh
Philosophy, history
When you're talking about the intellectual life of two thousand years ago, a degree of speculation is inevitable--even desirable. Nonetheless, there are limits; the absence of evidence against a proposition is not evidence for it. Tim Whitmarsh, at times, seems bent on blurring that line. Take this quotation, which asserts with sublime confidence that a certain passage of poetry was intended to be understood as subversive of divinity:
For some listeners the general point will have been clear enough: their king is more than human, in a way that mere language cannot capture. For others, the failure to specify exactly where Ptolemy sits in the hierarchy will have been a sign that Theocritus was not sure.Or this:
Could it be that Metrodorus was prompted by the atheistic arguments circulating in the Academy to propose a new type of history of Rome's rise, one that stressed the absence of benevolent divine influence?Well, sure, Tim, it could be that way. Or it could be some other way.
There are a lot of other examples. Academic or semi-academic authors tend to use this kind of "it is not implausible that ... " argument as a way of bolstering up some thesis, in the hopes that enough not-implausible assertions will eventually acquire the force of a convincing argument. Whitmarsh seems to be doing that; however, I'm not quite sure why. From the body of Battling the Gods, I understand that:
- Among the elites of the ancient world there existed a wide variety of religious views.
- Loaded terms like "atheist" meant different things to different people.
Whitmarsh also makes some fitful stabs at a more argumentative thesis: that religiosity is not necessarily normative. Perhaps it's wrong to see religious societies as "normal", in other words, and atheism as therefore fundamentally "aberrant", in need of explanation. That's a more interesting position, but most of Battling the Gods kind of slants the other way. The fact that ancient authors compiled lists of thinkers identified as atheos, for example, or that "the Atheist" was not-infrequently given as a kind of epithet, or that atheistic philosophers were sometimes satirized in Athenian drama. suggests that those people were thought of as out of the ordinary. Nobody compiles lists of thinkers with brown hair, or refers to a rival as "the notorious Anaxipygion the Moderate".
Where Battling the Gods does excel is as a kind of field guide to ancient skepticism. When Whitmarsh isn't trying to make a point, he's terrific. The threads of non-theistic philosophy are laid out clearly. The writers are well identified and categorized. The description of the the place of atheism in classical, Hellenistic, and Roman society is excellent. The arguments are clearly and interestingly described. Perhaps best of all, Whitmarsh makes it obvious (without saying it explicitly) that these were some very smart men, and that we shouldn't give ourselves airs on our smartness by virtue of mere modernity; may of the doctrines and ideas being debated in Athens c. 400 BC have close counterparts here and now.
Tim Whitmarsh was Not Really Terrific when Describing Atheistic Thinkers, and Relies on People just Blindly Accepting what He Claims are the Beliefs of Various Philosophers Are. Like when He Claims Xenophanese was an Atheist, Which is Absurd, or What He said of Aristotle Or Socrates, All of it was Nonsense. He also Relies on Our Modern Societies Sloppy Thinking Whilst Condemning Projecting Modern Ideas onto the Past. Atheism is Not Really the Opposite of Religion, it is the Opposite of Theism, Religion is a Complex Belief System Not Simply a Single Belief. And Atheism is a Belief, Not a lack of a Belief. Religion also does Not Require Belief in gods. As much as Tim Whitmarsh and His Fellows in The British Humanist Association, and Other Humanist Groups, Say Otherwise, Their Own Beliefs are Religious. Their Religion of Humanism is also Not a Faith that Comes to Us from The Ancient Greeks and Romans, it was Crafted in The 19th Century. The Whole Idea of Religion that We see as Ubiquitous and Obvious is also an Anachronism, so is the Distinction between Philosophy and Religion. Even Accepting the Distinction between Belief in a god or gods=Religion Atheism=Not Religion, Though, The Ancient World did Not Think This Way, and Whitmarsh is being Shallow in Acting as if The Ancient Greeks and Romans were Not Religious as They had No Central Holy Books or Centralised Clergy and Unified Orthodoxy, As They Still Believed in gods. It is also silly To Think The Ancients were Welcoming of Atheists, but Not Monotheists, or to deny Persecution of Christians, or to Downplay what did happen as the Fault of Christians Because They Really Wanted to be Martyred and Golly Gee WIllkers if They had Only Made Their god just One of the Pantheon All would be Hunky Dory OK. It is absurd since if Christians did that They'd No Longer Be Christians. If Christians Must Fundamentally Change Their Beliefs to Avoid Persecution, then it is Ridiculous to Claim The Pagans were Tolerant and it was all Christian Arrogance to Blame. Especially since its Not Really True that Christians Intentionally Sought Martyrdom All the Time. Sure, Some did, but it was No Where Near as Common as Whitmarsh Claims and was Condemned Early in the 2nd Century AD By The Church to do so.
ReplyDeleteThen There's the Silly Bit where He Claims Pagans and Atheists were Democratic Because Pagans had Many gods and Could Add More and This Translates to a Belief in a Diversity of Opinions, and Atheists Believe in Humanity making Them Also Listen to a Diversity of Opinions, But Monotheism makes All issues Absolute and Only One Valid Way Thus Leading to Authoritarianism. Never Mind Authoritarianism didn't even Exist Until The 20th Century, Whitmarsh can pretend The "Christian Dark Ages" Were Authoritarian when in Real Terms it was Literally Impossible to be Authoritarian as to be Authoritarian Requires Industrialisation and a Large Enough Populace to Draw a Large Enough Bureaucracy. Its as Absurd as the People Who say Jesus and The Early Christians were Socialists.
It is also Laughable to Think Believing many gods Exist must Translate to a Democratic Disposition, or that Atheism Leads to a Democratic Disposition, or that Monotheism Must Lead to Authoritarianism,. How many gods One Thinks there are Really isn't the Determining Factor in How You Think a Society Should be Run and There is Absolutely No Evidence that it ever had been.
The Whole Book is Only Popular as it is Not History but Histography, and a Histography for Modern Secularists.